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Old 05-13-2015, 07:15 AM   #21
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Re: ACSM, NSCA, ACE, USREPS: Your Aspiring Fitness Overlords

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All this may be so but the attempt to PT away PTSD is misguided. Congress did well to derail that plan.

HPCs are a nice idea, and should be approved, but every NSW gym I've seen was a well equipped combination of athletic department of a Division I school, CrossFit gym and PT office. I expect they'll be fine until these are approved.
I get what you are saying, but there is actually a fair amount of research evidence now that supports physical activity as a treatment for many mental illnesses, including depression, anxiety, PTSD and Occupational stress (all of which are intimately linked in the modern soldier).

Most of this work has taken a biological focus (e.g. physical activity --> better sleep -----> decreased anxiety) but the theory work being done now also looks at psychological mechanisms.

Physical fitness, especially when "CrossFit Like" has a few defining characteristics that contribute to individual resource accumulation - social affiliation with others (sense of belonging), physical control (sense of control), mastery experiences (self-efficacy), and detachment (mental separation from the stressor) to name a few. It also teaches a variety of coping mechanisms through participation and tends to lead to reframing. Think of processes such as adopting a long term goal orientation, focusing on process rather than outcome, breaking insurmountable tasks into manageable chunks, etc. Most of this block of items is still theoretical, and to my knowledge hasn't been explored directly in CrossFit or in other fitness protocols, but it is promising stuff. In my opinion part of the overwhelming success of CrossFit stems from the psychological growth of participants in addition to the physical changes.

More specifically to the PTSD piece - in treatment, both routine building and self-care are extremely important. A physical fitness regimen provides a framework for establishing routine and encourages higher quality self-care by participants (nutrition, rest, lower alcohol consumption, etc).

Although we can't "PT away the pain" I don't think they are far off by suggesting physical fitness as a way to build resources, resilience and coping strategies. Itís a total care approach that will win the day.
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Old 05-13-2015, 01:21 PM   #22
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The message about Gatorade is spreading: Is Gatorade Fuel or Folly? Canadian Study says Sports Drinks are Ineffective.

Steve Cheung, professor and a Canada research chair in environmental ergonomics and the lead author of the study, says the message that dehydration affects performance simply did not stand up to scrutiny.
“Your body is more stressed with dehydration. So no questions there,” he said. “But the performance was not different. And also none of these competitive elite athletes were at any (health) danger.”


Another study from the Atkins Center for Weight and Health at UC Berkeley says a larger trend is at play. While sales of sodas are falling rapidly, a new category of drink has emerged under the glow of a “Health Halo”. The study claims to be the first scientific look at 21 popular sugary drinks that make health claims.
“Despite the positive connotation surrounding energy and sports drinks, these products are essentially sodas without the carbonation,” said Dr. Patricia Crawford, the lead author of the study. “Rather than promote health as claimed in advertising, these drinks are putting our children’s health at risk.”


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Old 05-14-2015, 09:17 PM   #23
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Gatorade is something you drink for pleasure, like a soda. It is no sports wonder... God, the power of marketing...
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:40 AM   #24
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I went into more depth on the legislation that ACSM, NSCA, and USREPS are lobbying for, and what CrossFit's doing to stop it, here:

Jail Time for Air Squats? USREPS' Scheme to Stop CrossFit

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Old 05-15-2015, 05:49 PM   #25
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I get what you are saying, but there is actually a fair amount of research evidence now that supports physical activity as a treatment for many mental illnesses, including depression, anxiety, PTSD and Occupational stress (all of which are intimately linked in the modern soldier).

Most of this work has taken a biological focus (e.g. physical activity --> better sleep -----> decreased anxiety) but the theory work being done now also looks at psychological mechanisms.

Physical fitness, especially when "CrossFit Like" has a few defining characteristics that contribute to individual resource accumulation - social affiliation with others (sense of belonging), physical control (sense of control), mastery experiences (self-efficacy), and detachment (mental separation from the stressor) to name a few. It also teaches a variety of coping mechanisms through participation and tends to lead to reframing. Think of processes such as adopting a long term goal orientation, focusing on process rather than outcome, breaking insurmountable tasks into manageable chunks, etc. Most of this block of items is still theoretical, and to my knowledge hasn't been explored directly in CrossFit or in other fitness protocols, but it is promising stuff. In my opinion part of the overwhelming success of CrossFit stems from the psychological growth of participants in addition to the physical changes.

More specifically to the PTSD piece - in treatment, both routine building and self-care are extremely important. A physical fitness regimen provides a framework for establishing routine and encourages higher quality self-care by participants (nutrition, rest, lower alcohol consumption, etc).

Although we can't "PT away the pain" I don't think they are far off by suggesting physical fitness as a way to build resources, resilience and coping strategies. Itís a total care approach that will win the day.
All that being said, and I work in the field and worked for a long time in SpecWar, SEALs PTing PTSD away is ridiculous. It's not like these guys are coming off the couch. Their trainers are providing them with an individualized "CrossFit" like program.

MH is what they can't get them to do, and they're losing people and ruining families, because of the lack.

That plan is a sign of the confusion that exists concerning this.
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:06 PM   #26
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Exercise can certainly help with PTSD etc. Is it the sole remedy? Of course not.
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Exercise can certainly help with PTSD etc. Is it the sole remedy? Of course not.
If exercise was the needed component for PTSD in NSW, there would be no PTSD in NSW.
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:04 AM   #28
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Here's Coca-Cola's Exercise is Medicine nutritional information.

They published this along with the ACSM.

Guess how many times they mention the words "soda" or "sugar."

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Old 05-19-2015, 05:18 PM   #29
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That is quite comical--115 single spaced, typed pages of useless over-analysis and bull****. Meanwhile, Greg Glassman and CrossFit needed 100 words to define world class fitness. And one brief internet page, just a few paragraphs, to give much better and very specific advice on nutrition.

The report even continues to refer to the importance of lowering cholesterol to prevent heart disease, an idea that has been thoroughly debunked by irrefutable science. The complicity of the business interests in the food and drug industries in misinforming the public--and in trying to make their dogma public policy--is just downright shameful.
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:12 AM   #30
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"Take heed of the American Council on Exercise’s guidelines: about 7-10 oz (about a glass) for every 10 to 20 minutes of heavy activity should be enough."

Source: http://vitals.lifehacker.com/4-myths...ium=socialflow (w/f safe)
The upper bound of those ACE guidelines is 60 oz of fluid an hour.

That's crazy high! It's 12 ounces more than the US military's maximal limit of safe fluid consumption for soldiers training in high heat.

If a large group followed the higher end of these ACE guidelines while exercising for hours many would encounter hyponatremia and then undergo hospitalization. Some would die. Which unfortunately is what's happened.

Source: http://hprc-online.org/nutrition/fil...id-replacement (w/f safe)
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