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Old 03-29-2008, 10:00 PM   #1
Justin Medeiros
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What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

I'll make this quick and simple.

On the Zone for 3 weeks.
Feel awesome.
Down 8 pounds. (178 to 170)

This 3 days on for workouts:
Post workout extreme dizziness for "Helen" and "Barbara".
First time it's happened since I been on the Zone.

Today, "Fight Gone Bad".
Pre-workout felt some slight dizziness.
Took an Iron pill.
No post-workout dizziness.

Reason why I think it might be lack of iron is cutting out grains cuts out a lot of iron.

Any feedback would be awesome! Thanks guys and gals.
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:33 AM   #2
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

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I'll make this quick and simple.

On the Zone for 3 weeks.
Feel awesome.
Down 8 pounds. (178 to 170)

This 3 days on for workouts:
Post workout extreme dizziness for "Helen" and "Barbara".
First time it's happened since I been on the Zone.

Today, "Fight Gone Bad".
Pre-workout felt some slight dizziness.
Took an Iron pill.
No post-workout dizziness.

Reason why I think it might be lack of iron is cutting out grains cuts out a lot of iron.

Any feedback would be awesome! Thanks guys and gals.
It's more likely that cutting out grains has left you with lower blood sugar and thus the lightheaded feeling. If you are concerned about your iron intake (it's usually not an issue for men) animal sources are both richer and more available than vegetable sources. Some examples here.
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:16 PM   #3
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

Agree that it may be the lack of grains and your body adjusting a bit to the changes. Any change in diet can really screw with the body for up to a month or even a little longer depending on what your food was like before.

A Paleo-esque Zone oughtta cover the bases in terms of iron.
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:16 PM   #4
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

Excess iron in the body, again usually only a problem for men, is one of the worst things to have going on-very potent oxidant. With my clients I always want to see a blood test before I am comfortable with men taking an iron supplement. Just my approach...
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:21 PM   #5
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

Eat nuts, they are a good source of iron. Some good ones are almonds and walnuts.
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:24 PM   #6
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

Ditto on the dangers of supplementing iron in the absence of clinical anemia.

When you lower your grain (carb) intake, it takes a while for your body to switch over fuel burning systems, ie, you have to get more efficient at burning fat for fuel. Your muscle and liver glycogen stores have to equilibrate to your decreased carb intake, too, and your cells are re-adjusting their insulin sensitivity---all good stuff, btw.

Your response to the iron pill was likely a placebo effect, since oral iron has no immediate effect in terms of oxygen-carrying load in the body.

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Old 03-30-2008, 07:49 PM   #7
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

I have low blood iron, but didn't want to take supplemental iron. My doctor was going to insist on it, but I found something that raised my blood iron quickly - dessicated liver tabs. I use Uni-liver: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/liver.html (wfs, of course)

yes, it's highly processed (apostasy around these parts), but it's better for you than supplemental iron, also contains a lot of protein, and is easily absorbed by the body. It's also super-cheap. I take 4 in the morning and 4 in the evening (and sometimes 4 in the afternoon on days I feel a little sluggish). My blood iron is higher than ever, and it's a lot safer than iron pills.
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:09 AM   #8
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

Makes perfect sense guys, thanks a lot...seems to be getting better...I'm thinking after another month of my body getting used to the lower carb intake I'll get some blood work done to see where I'm at.
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:42 AM   #9
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

This is a very old thread reopening, but did not feel like starting a new one...

3 months ago I did some blood work. Everything came withing "normal", but as a CFer I try to improve my conditioning and there is a connection between blood Iron levels and cell oxidation.

So it got me thinking, I really suck at endurance, why not increase iron intake and thus help delivering more oxyden to the cells.

I started eating more duck liver and an occasional iron pill (mostly during weekends when my diet is not really spot on).

Latest blood work results shows NO improvement, none, iron levels almost the same, difference is a 1-2%. How is this possible, is my body "blocking" more iron intake or what, I dont get it. My sleep is fine, recovery is fine, stress normal...

Any ideas?
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Old 08-18-2015, 11:45 AM   #10
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Re: What do you guys/girls think? Iron and the Zone

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This is a very old thread reopening, but did not feel like starting a new one...

3 months ago I did some blood work. Everything came withing "normal", but as a CFer I try to improve my conditioning and there is a connection between blood Iron levels and cell oxidation.

So it got me thinking, I really suck at endurance, why not increase iron intake and thus help delivering more oxyden to the cells.

I started eating more duck liver and an occasional iron pill (mostly during weekends when my diet is not really spot on).

Latest blood work results shows NO improvement, none, iron levels almost the same, difference is a 1-2%. How is this possible, is my body "blocking" more iron intake or what, I dont get it. My sleep is fine, recovery is fine, stress normal...

Any ideas?
You don't need to increase your iron intake if your blood work came back normal.

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