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Old 05-06-2015, 08:35 AM   #11
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Re: ACSM, NSCA, ACE, USREPS: Your Aspiring Fitness Overlords

It's hard to generalize about these bills, Steven. The USREPS sample legislation has not succeeded anywhere, or even come close. The DC bill is not specific enough to be implemented, yet: http://dcclims1.dccouncil.us/lims/le...LegNo=B20-0153

The MA bill is the only one proposed this year yet so far: https://legiscan.com/MA/bill/H185/2015

Good idea on the talking points. I am sure these will be available soon.

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Has CrossFit or it's representatives developed a position paper and "talking points" to distribute to the CrossFit community?

That is one of the next important steps. What you want is a position paper no more than a couple of pages long, but also with a one page and easily readable "bullet point" summary--as the cover page--of the most important and effective talking points. This can be used to educate CrossFit affiliated coaches regarding the specific problems with the legislation and is something CrossFit credentialed coaches and CrossFit members/athletes called upon to lobby (as citizens, not paid professionals) leave with legislators and their staff members when lobbying them. The idea is to have something packaged where any reasonably knowledgable person can go in and effectively communicate the talking points: "Here is what is wrong with this legislation."

Some questions I would ask are what reputable certification agencies does it leave out, other than CrossFit (the 800 lb. gorilla in the room)? I'm sure there are others: USA Weighlifting, USA Gymanstics, USA Cycling, USA Triathlon, USA Basketball, Baseball, Softball, Soccer, Track & Field, etc.?

Physical Education teachers in schools (or what's left of them) have to get a license?

Lay people with no training are allowed to lead physical activity under the legislation, but trained instructors from well known organizations cannot do so?

The definitions and distinctions the model law tries to draw are so ambiguous it would create an administrative and legal nightmare:

Can a YMCA or other fitness facility not have staff on the weight room floor to assist members?--they would be violating the law if giving instruction. What about showing proper use of machines? (machines are not our thing but in fighting battles like this one you sometimes align yourselves with those who you might typically consider enemies or your competition)

Is a YMCA allowed to have volunteer coaches for its youth sports anymore? This would be a huge issue for YMCAs, which operate extensively through the use of volunteers to help coach youth sports programs.

Can the manufacturers and sellers of equipment give advice on how to properly use the equipment and/or recommend training plans? (That instructional DVD you just got with your new Kettlebell or TRX machine probably violates the law).

That proposed model legislation is a mess.

P.S. If this issue comes up in Florida make sure to contact me. I used to be a board member of a very large YMCA (27 branches spanning 6 counties with a $75+ million budget) and I'm virtually certain it would consider this "model" legislation a huge problem it would want to oppose.
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Anyone want to guess why the Department of Defense can afford to be Gatorade's single largest customer even while the Navy SEALs aren't getting the fitness funding they request?
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Old 05-06-2015, 07:30 PM   #13
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Anyone want to guess why the Department of Defense can afford to be Gatorade's single largest customer even while the Navy SEALs aren't getting the fitness funding they request?
Lobbyists?
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Old 05-07-2015, 08:23 AM   #14
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Lobbyists?
Chris,
Are you suggesting that Big Soda's lobbyists have manipulated the US Military into purchasing more Gatorade and less fitness for its troops? Now where would you get that idea from?
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:20 PM   #15
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So this is interesting: http://hprc-online.org/environment/t...ch-water-hurts

"According to an updated report by the Armed Services Health Surveillance Center, in 2011 there were more cases of exertional hyponatremia than in any other year of their observation period (1999-2011)—in fact, three times as many cases in 2011 as in 1999."

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Chris,
Are you suggesting that Big Soda's lobbyists have manipulated the US Military into purchasing more Gatorade and less fitness for its troops? Now where would you get that idea from?
Well, unfortunately lobbyists and their backers pretty much run everything. We live in a palm greasing country...

I have always found it interesting that quality, efficacy and so on really don't matter. It is all about the money. Sad...
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Old 05-09-2015, 07:50 PM   #17
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Anyone want to guess why the Department of Defense can afford to be Gatorade's single largest customer even while the Navy SEALs aren't getting the fitness funding they request?
All this may be so but the attempt to PT away PTSD is misguided. Congress did well to derail that plan.

HPCs are a nice idea, and should be approved, but every NSW gym I've seen was a well equipped combination of athletic department of a Division I school, CrossFit gym and PT office. I expect they'll be fine until these are approved.
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:28 PM   #18
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NSCA's current treasurer and secretary is Chad Kerksick: http://www.nsca.com/Foundation/Governance/

Kerksick was suspended and faced federal investigation for unethical research practices. In 2011:

http://www.newson6.com/story/1600427...arch-practices

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-testing.html

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Old 05-12-2015, 04:35 AM   #19
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So this is interesting: http://hprc-online.org/environment/t...ch-water-hurts

"According to an updated report by the Armed Services Health Surveillance Center, in 2011 there were more cases of exertional hyponatremia than in any other year of their observation period (1999-2011)—in fact, three times as many cases in 2011 as in 1999."

(link is w/f safe)
This is particularly sad considering a substantial amount of research relied upon by Tim Noakes, M.D., in drafting Waterlogged (the book Coach Glassman bought and gave free to 500 people including many members on here), was research from the U.S. Military showing the dangers of too much water consumption.
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I've been saying forever that excess water/fluid consumption is folly. Unfortunately, it is an idea that has been embraced by the fitness community in general. The popularity and misunderstanding stems from the myth about a lot of water to lose weight and some studies which show the dehydration harms performance combined with the human nature attribute of more is better.
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