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Old 03-03-2009, 11:27 AM   #31
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Re: No more chocolate cake after midnight??? Seriously???

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I eat lots of stuff after midnight.

As long as you're intaking calories to "support activity levels and not fat" then you're fine.... although you might want to balance out the extreme amount of carbs in cake with something else.
In the article called http://lifespotlight.com/fitness/2008/02/25/fat-loss-101-master-the-basics/ (wfs), originally posted at http//www.theiflife.com (wfs), eating carbs close to bed is counter productive, both when trying to lose fat and gain muscle due to Growth Hormone response.

Here's a quote from the site:
"For max GH response:

* Most of your daily GH is released in the first couple hours of sleep at night (75%) . Keep your insulin levels low (which means no big meals or sugar 2-3 hours before bed) and get to bed by 10pm to get the maximum response. So get your sleep, your body will thank you. People shorting themselves on sleep will also be hindering their fat loss efforts and may lead to more weight gain from improper hormonal responses (which can also trigger cravings!)"


This leads me to my question regarding IF: When you have to eat your amount of daily calories in the relatively small eating window (for me it's 4 hours), how does this interfere with sleep and hGH response?
I normally fast from 9pm to 6:30pm the next day (21 ½ hours) and go to bed again at 10pm.

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Old 03-03-2009, 11:29 AM   #32
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jay, jamie. you two are ridiculous and are both my heroes.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:58 AM   #33
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Jay and I are judges.

Jay, you forgot keg balancing (over head and standing on) and tire rolls (put teammate in tire and roll for time.
Jamie, well said and yes, forgot those events, but we can always add or subtract.

I thought all women in Dubai are Hotties, you're pre approved. Ticket is on Jamie, he's a high end software geek
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:30 PM   #34
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Re: No more chocolate cake after midnight??? Seriously???

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In the article called http://lifespotlight.com/fitness/2008/02/25/fat-loss-101-master-the-basics/ (wfs), originally posted at http//www.theiflife.com (wfs), eating carbs close to bed is counter productive, both when trying to lose fat and gain muscle due to Growth Hormone response.

Here's a quote from the site:
"For max GH response:

* Most of your daily GH is released in the first couple hours of sleep at night (75%) . Keep your insulin levels low (which means no big meals or sugar 2-3 hours before bed) and get to bed by 10pm to get the maximum response. So get your sleep, your body will thank you. People shorting themselves on sleep will also be hindering their fat loss efforts and may lead to more weight gain from improper hormonal responses (which can also trigger cravings!)"


This leads me to my question regarding IF: When you have to eat your amount of daily calories in the relatively small eating window (for me it's 4 hours), how does this interfere with sleep and hGH response?
I normally fast from 9pm to 6:30pm the next day (21 ½ hours) and go to bed again at 10pm.

Cheers,
Bo
Yes, I already know that.

It's in my opinion that going hard in your workouts and eating right will produce better body composition changes than trying to "maximize" GH.

This is similar to the overblown attitude towards anabolic and catabolic states. If you're eating enough there won't be too much metabolism of muscle mass.
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:51 PM   #35
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Yes, but it would be the newly created " Eating Great Amounts of Primal Food" level 9 Cert, as you would have to be pre qualified to attend. No vegetarians, No Block Heads.

Some of the possible events:

Chase, kill and prepare your own meal.
How many meat cookies can you eat in a minute.
Juggling Tirzah's Paleo Chocolate Balls(since these weigh about 5lbs each(kinda dry if I remember from last year) the juggling would be challenging.

Of course, we'll bring out all the toys and do some work. I think it was pretty good work when you and I stood around and watched Rayna exhibit killer form on the OHS. There was definitely NO BUTT tuck on that girl.

The possibilities are endless.

Costs:

Guys $500 bucks
Hotties, we pay them $500 bucks, which includes room and board.
No fair I'm way over on the other coast! Could you pay airfare, too?!
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:46 PM   #36
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No fair I'm way over on the other coast! Could you pay airfare, too?!
Girls that can lift like that ^definately qualify for hotty! Unless of course they look like blokes then not

Jay - you must have not been to Dubai before
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No fair I'm way over on the other coast! Could you pay airfare, too?!
You'll need a note from your husband to attend, then we can discuss "comp'ing" your ticket.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:22 PM   #38
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Jay - you must have not been to Dubai before
My travel bag is always packed, shots and passport are current.................
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:04 PM   #39
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You'll need a note from your husband to attend, then we can discuss "comp'ing" your ticket.
It's not nice to tease Jay!

I'd be so there if I could fit it in my schedule. Hubby's got family in VA, so we could visit moms and pops, too.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:10 AM   #40
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My travel bag is always packed, shots and passport are current.................
You're funny! Love the packed bag idea! But if you want hot chicks then this is not the place. The only time there's maybe 2 pretty boys in town is when the Navy's here. And they all get locked away at night
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