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Old 01-14-2012, 11:48 PM   #1
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Rumble Cut Weight

Post Fight Interviews had Dana White on and looks like Rumble leaving the UFC is all but official, Dana White says 3 strikes and you're out!

Honestly sounds reasonable to me especially after moving up in weight class to solve his problem missing weight, still sucks to see a decent fighter have to leave.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:46 AM   #2
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

At the weight-in, Rumble said to Dana:"Do you know what happened?!", but I could not catch the explanation of not making weight.....
Does anyknow know what happened? I mean it must be something BIG to miss weight with 11 pounds (or maybe lack of dedication)....
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:53 AM   #3
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

Apparently - he had a hydration issue (obviously0>
UFC docs "made him" rehydrate when he complained of numbness in his leg.
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Old 01-16-2012, 02:22 PM   #4
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

Hey, I'm kind of new to the UFC spectator/whole weight class thing and I was wondering what exactly they mean by cutting his weight? Was he over weight for the class and dehydrated himself to fit in for the weigh in or was he lighter than he should have been?

I don't really get it...
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Old 01-16-2012, 02:44 PM   #5
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

When you fight, you want to fight in as light a weight class as possible. Therefore, you "cut" weight before a fight through means such as dehydration, and carbohydrate and sodium manipulation.

For example: Leading up to my last fight, I was 70kg or so. I was to weigh in under 68kg. So, for a couple of days I had much less carbs, sweated a lot and cut my weight down to 67kg when I weighed in. I was then able to put that weight back on before getting in the ring.

The advantage here is that you could wind up much bigger and stronger than your opponent. Pro fighters have been known to cut up to 20lbs in the last week before the weigh in.
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:04 PM   #6
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

So Rumble had to fit into the 185 category and hit 196 instead?

How come he was still able to fight? Wouldn't that mean he'd be disqualified?

Isn't that kind of cheating? Why don't they just weight them right before the fight to make it fair?
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:16 AM   #7
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

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So Rumble had to fit into the 185 category and hit 196 instead?

How come he was still able to fight? Wouldn't that mean he'd be disqualified?

Isn't that kind of cheating? Why don't they just weight them right before the fight to make it fair?
You cannot weight them right before the fight because you would have two zombies running around the octagon carb depleted and dehydrated.

I guess you could but the fights would be horrible.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:46 AM   #8
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

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So Rumble had to fit into the 185 category and hit 196 instead?

How come he was still able to fight? Wouldn't that mean he'd be disqualified?

Isn't that kind of cheating? Why don't they just weight them right before the fight to make it fair?

It is cheating, disgrace and unprofessional. Just imagine how the opponent feels about this. While the professional one is suffering, and feeling sh@t because of the weight cut, the other one doesn't g.a.f, maybe having double burger somewhere......

Total respect to Vitor Belfort to make weight after all-even when he was offered by Dana White not to make weight-he did + he won the fight, PROFESSIONAL all the way.

If you are having problem making weight, than change weight class....
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

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You cannot weight them right before the fight because you would have two zombies running around the octagon carb depleted and dehydrated.

I guess you could but the fights would be horrible.
Not if it is managed properly, Doug. people would just simply compete at - or very close to - their walk-around weight.

I lift in a PL federation that mandates weigh-ins just prior to competition. Usually, the weigh-ins begin at 7:00 a.m., and lifting begins at 9:00 a.m.

When I wrestled in high school, weigh-ins were same day as well.

The 24 hour weigh-in fosters this type of problem.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:34 PM   #10
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Re: Rumble Cut Weight

Sorry, but PL competitions and high school competitions might be able to do same-day weigh-ins, but when there are millions of dollars on the line nobody is going to risk that. The fighters are still going to try to cut weight, so you risk people not making weight, making weight but giving lackluster performances, and actually having people risk their lives. The promotion also risks having major fights not go off because of missed weight, not having time to have someone try to lose the last pound, etc. What if there was a title fight as the main event and one guy doesn't make weight? That means it's no longer a title fight and a whole lot of angry people have already paid for tickets and a PPV and now your fight schedule for the rest of the year is messed up as well, the guys next in line for the title are ****ed, etc, etc...way too much at risk for same day weigh-ins.
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